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Venomancer, the Lesale Deathbringer Damage And Support Guide by ImbaCore

Written by admin on October 5th, 2008
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IÅ“For those obsessed with death, poison is a necessary study. However, Lesale went a step too far. He experimented upon himself with various toxins and chemicals so that he could learn the secrets of death. These twisted his mind and mutated his body into a hideous creature which embodies an immense hatred for all things pure. He can strike an enemy with a concentrated shot of poison or even spread a toxic gas throughout an entire area, severely weakening beast and human alike.

|||| Contents
[1.0] Introduction
[2.0] Skill Analysis
[3.0] Item Build
[4.0] Walkthrough & Strategy

[1.0] – Introduction
Team Role: Damage Support


The guide gets revamped from its old stage to the current Venomancer being played today with a few modifications. Venomancer is a hunter. The guide is names Damage Support because all he needs to do is activate his ultimate and the team should do what they can from there.

I know what you might be thinking, a copy from PsychicDog and ChickenMctest just by looking at the item build? No, the strategy is different here. Although it is familiar, this strategy has existed since the 6.0x days but why post a similar guide now? I got tired of updating the same guide and I have failed to post any of my stock guides here so here I am with Venomancer.

[1.1] Hero Stats & Overview


Lesale Deathbringer – The Venomancer
Range: 450 | | Move Speed: 290 | Primary: AGI
Str: 18 + 1.85 | Agi: 22 + 2.6 | Int: 15 + 1.75
Damage: 46 – 48 | HP: 492 | Mana: 195
HP Regen: 0.79 | Mana Regen: 0.61
Attack Speed: 1.33 (+ 22% IAS) | Armor: 4.1

PROS
  • Kills blinkers and wind walkers when combo is successful
  • Dominates low hp heroes early to mid game
  • Shreds health points quickly
  • Plague Wards shine against pushes
CONS
  • Low Survivability Rate against nukers
  • Easily countered by the skills of the Holy Knight
  • Poison Nova does not kill without a DoT skill
  • Loses effectiveness when late game arrives
  • Decent opponents will kill their own teammates under poison

[2.0] – Skill Analysis

Venamancer’s team role in battle is to damage multiple heroes. Now let’s review his skills: he has one slow damage overtime skill, a simple ward, a mini nuke, and an AoE DoT skill. All these skills make him a great asset for his team; Just dish out assists, and you will be a big contribution to your team.

[2.1] Skill Descriptions


Shadow Strike
Hurls a poisoned dagger which deals large initial damage, and then deals damage over time. The poisoned unit has its movement speed slowed for a short duration.
Level 1 – 50 strike damage, 10 duration damage.
Level 2 – 70 strike damage, 20 duration damage.
Level 3 – 70 strike damage, 40 duration damage.
Level 4 – 100 strike damage, 50 duration damage.
Mana Cost: 90/ 105/ 120/ 135
Cooldown: 22


Poison Sting
Adds poison damage to this hero’s normal attacks, slightly slowing movement speeds.
Lasts 7 seconds.
Poison Sting damages do not stack.
Level 1 – Deals 5 damage per second.
Level 2 – Deals 10 damage per second.
Level 3 – Deals 15 damage per second.
Level 4 – Deals 20 damage per second.
Mana Cost: N/A
Cooldown: N/A


Plague Ward
Summons an immobile serpentine ward. The ward deals piercing damage, lasts 40 seconds, and is immune to magic.
Level 1 – 75 hit points, 11 max damage.
Level 2 – 200 hit points, 21 max damage.
Level 3 – 325 hit points, 32 max damage.
Level 4 – 450 hit points, 42 max damage.
Mana Cost: 25
Cooldown: 6


Poison Nova
Creates a ring of noxious poison of around 500 AoE that damages enemy units over a 12 second period.
Level 1 – 36 damage per second.
Level 2 – 58 damage per second.
Level 3 – 81 damage per second.
Level 4 (with Scepter) – 108 damage per second.
Mana Cost: 200/ 300/ 400
Cooldown: 135/ 115/ 95/ 60

[2.2] Skill Build

Suggested Skill Build:


Poison & Wards Build
Level 1 | Shadow Strike
Level 2 | Poison Sting
Level 3 | Shadow Strike
Level 4 | Poison Sting
Level 5 | Shadow Strike
Level 6 | Poison Nova
Level 7 | Shadow Strike
Level 8-10 | Plague Wards
Level 11 | Poison Nova
Level 12 | Plague Wards
Level 13-15 | Attribute Bonus
Level 16 | Poison Nova
Level 17-23 | Attribute Bonus
Level 24-25 | Poison Sting

Shadow Strike is leveled up to the max because this is what makes you a threat. It is a strong damage-overtime nuke that slows, which gives you a few hits on the target.

Poison Sting only takes two levels; the only use for this is to get rid of any form of regeneration (only tangos counter this).

Poison Nova is a big threat early game. Your ultimate makes you a team player so you should level it up as soon as it is available. By level 6 onwards, I assure you that blinkers and wind walkers cannot escape death if the damage done is lethal enough to kill.

I have chosen Plague Wards before stats because it can stop pushes and create better pushing opportunities for your team when they are massed. Although I have Maelstrom to stop pushes, Plague Wards can push down towers just like Enigma’s Eidolons now that towers have no regen. I do not agree with anything bad about wards. They feed only if you put them in the position feed. With wards comes more versatility when you start creeping.


[3.0] – Item Build
[3.1] Item Lineup

Starting Items:

This is an optional choice but buy a chicken if there isn’t already. You can buy a headdress for the optional choice of buying Mekansm to support. You may also buy Ring of Basilius for the small armor boost to help you dive through the enemy creeps.

Your first basic item will be 2 bracers since you need to attack and endure a few hits and you need the hp being a low hp agi hero. No wraith bands unless you really have a hard time last hitting creeps.

[3.2] Elite Damage Dealer

Core Items:

Optional (Extension) Items:

Item Build Order:

1. Complete 2 bracers
2. Buy Boots, Gloves of Haste
3. Complete Midas
4. Mekansm | Dagger of Escape
5. Complete Travels
6. Complete Maelstrom
7. Complete Linkin Sphere
8. Complete Mjollnir
9. Complete Butterfly

Total Cost of Core Items: xx,xxx


You might be wondering of why is there no damage early game and my answer is that Venomancer relies on damage overtime skills. His Poison Skills are more than enough to kill off easy prey. The only real damage he would have would come from Maelstrom if you choose to adjust the order according to the game flow.

Boots of Travels are better as I am not a fan of Power Treads on Venomancer as this hinders him from starting & stopping pushes immediately. Though he can buy scrolls, the teleport ability and the move speed from Travels makes ganking, chasing and fleeing easier.

The Transmute from Midas helps you farm expensive items and suits Venomancer very well since the components of MKB and the new Butterfly cost a lot. The IAS from this item helps trigger the lightning from Maelstrom a bit more; which is farming happily. Early game, this helps you give off more shots than needed.

Linkin Sphere enables you to keep using Shadow Strike. Both Mekansm and the Plague Wards also use up the excess mana, so his mana does not really get wasted. The Entangle is a bonus for Venomancer; no stun will stop you from chasing dying heroes.

Your main damage items are Mjollnir, Butterfly & MKB now that Divine is no longer the best option. Mjollnir and Butterfly work great as Evasion and Static Charge are a good mix; even though opponents will miss, they can still trigger Static Charge. Maelstrom and then eventually Mjollnir help assist Poison Nova with their chain damage. And finally MKB is a better choice in terms of DPS against Buriza as the final items since towers are the main concern.


Optional Items – Endurance


Dagger of Escape is a better alternative to Lothars but the only time you get this is if the opposing team has Furion where sprout would really hurt. Another hero to look out for is Vengeful Spirit. Get dagger if the enemy team has pushed you out of position.

Mekansm is a support item and since you have excess mana, it would be best to use that mana to heal your allies while you are in the middle of the team clash. The armor boost enables you to tank a bit. Mekansm is gotten in conjunction with Linkin Sphere.

Monkey King Bar may or may not replace Hand of Midas late game. The DPS within this item helps Venomancer fulfill his role as a late game damage dealer. This is due to the damage from the mini-stun as it helps bring down opponents although it is physical with range. Advisable after the Core Items have been completed.

Radiance is an item I wouldn’t be surprised to have when nobody will get it. You also have decent items to tank: Butterfly, Linkin Sphere & Mekansm. Even though another hero uses the immolation better, it is still a fine choice when pushing multiple lanes as a team.

Other Alternative Items



Wraith Bands are good at increasing damage and can also help with last hit creeping. I have chosen Bracers because you will be diving into creeps early game so increasing your health is a better option.

Lothar’s Edge may be one of the best items for hunting but I do not recommend it as you can run away with travels and use the fog of war to your advantage instead. Veno’s ultimate is instant and nothing compared to Shadow Fiend’s Ultimate.

Sange & Yasha IMO is the worst choice a player can choose for Venomancer. It provides nothing except more speed, which does not really help the team unless you have an item that boosts damage quickly. I’ve chosen Maelstrom because it can help you and the team. You have SS so maim is worthless.

This guide originally had Maelstrom-Divine-Aegis but now that’s out, we have Mjollnir-Butterfly-MKB to compensate for that. Use Dr.Aegis in versions 6.41 and below.

[4.0] – Strategy & Walkthrough

[4.1] Early Game 1-11



Level 1-3: Earning your territory

You are a hero with 450 range, which can make it difficult, so you’re best having an ally tagging along in getting that first kill. Lane partners suited for you should be tanks that can assist. Abaddon, Skeleton King and Tidehunter fit this criterion.

The lanes I encourage you to get are the side lanes. Last hit creeps as you normally do. When you reach level 2, you should have Poison Sting so use it wisely; don’t be greedy but don’t be too cautious either, hit a hero at least once because the Poison Sting eliminates their poor regen for 7 seconds. Be careful when creeps do start targeting you; tangos will help here. When you reach level 3, start spamming SS on your target and have your ally assist. If the hero flees, let him go. Rely on Shadow Strike to kill for you, there’s no use tower diving at this stage.

Levels 4-11: Establish Lane Control

Work on your basic items. Complete them. With Bracers, Boots, Headdress and/or a RoB, you are a stacked hero and this will allow you to stay in your lane. The boots will allow for easy chasing.

The only thing you need to worry about is Chen and Mekansm. If enemy heroes teleport or have teleports, have your allies ready their stun. Kill when necessary, it should be very easy for you to earn at least 2 kills before this stage ends. Shadow Strike and hit or add in Poison Nova to kill fleeing targets.

If you have been last hitting creeps effectively, you should see yourself with a Midas. After Midas, proceeding to Travels is optional so you can just adapt to the battlefield instead. By creeping and dedicated farming, you can rush for the better items and prepare yourself for mid game ganks.

[4.2] Mid Game 12-18



Your Role: Gang Bang and Support

Mid game is all about teamwork. You should participate in nearby ganks whenever possible. Have you been more successful at killing or have you been the main focus of the enemy team? Does your team need more support? I advise getting a Dagger of Escape to the first question and Mekansm for the second. You must acquire one of the two so you can remain versatile for your team.

Get your Linkin Sphere afterwards. Plague Wards serve as scouts and gives your tower more support from its piercing damage. Mass Plague Wards at key positions when ganking; you can lay down a maximum of 6 Plague Wards. They also help with the high-level creep camps. Maelstrom also helps and is your main damage item at this point and eventually Mjollnir.

Don’t die carelessly for a kill; if you are however on red health then it would be best to back off. You are mainly contributing Poison Nova and a Shadow Strike for your team, after that you are a normal DPS Hero. Maelstrom increases Venomancer’s potential, it helps in farming and increases your effectiveness after Poison Nova has been used.

Buy Wards for your team. Your team should be sharing the ward watch in order for everyone to stay equally powered against opponents. By mass warding, you are delaying your items and you will be a useless AGI hero by late game.

Coordinate with your allies about your skill combos within the team. Remember that Poison Nova does not kill so your allies should be the ones finishing up the mess. For chain combos regarding Venomancer and his allies, check out the A&E Section.

[4.3] Late Game 19-25


When this stage begins, you should be farming for Aegis and Divine and when the game goes on too long, go for Mjollnir. At this point, you may also replace Midas with Butterfly. With the help of both Midas and the 20% chain lightning, there should be no problem at all.

Poison Nova has almost no effect on high hp heroes and heroes with Aegis of Immortal. Shadow Strike is mainly a slow. It is annoying, which only gives Venomancer the role of a pure DPS Damage Dealer. Do what you must, play as a team and win as a team. Venomancer’s role late in this game is simple and complete once you’ve completed Divine-Aegis.

[4.4] Comparing Other Builds

Linkin Sphere vs. Guinsoo & Battlefury



Battlefury is much cheaper than the other but it will only provide damage. Venomancer is not even a melee hero so he can’t benefit from the cleaving attack and there is also the case of Venomancer survivability so this item goes down the drain. Guinsoo’s Sythe of Vyse is fairly a good item and provides a little damage and hex. The components are cheap and the item itself is cheaper than Linkins but it has a flaw. The flaw being that there is TOO MUCH MANA and provides no means of survivability in ganks, which pushes you to buy a Vanguard in conjunction with this.

Now Linkin Sphere provides the stats he needs and the mana regen he will ever require; it is better than Vanguard’s block percenatge because of the armor boosts from Mekansm and Butterfly. Though it is a tad expensive, all the bonuses of this item fit Venomancer’s Role. Entangle and stats are his best bets at survival and the mana regen enables you to use SS multiple times.

Other Damage Builds

Buriza is a fine choice but the Criticals don’t really count when you start pushing. IMHO, it is best used together with MKB but both would severely limit Venomancer’s Role. Mjollnir and Butterfly are better choices as they both add a lot of agility, which is converted to armor; the evasion is better than criticals and Static Charge can be used on you or on your tankers.

Late game, you still have the choice of adding MKB after Butterfly and Mjollnir as criticals from Buriza do not effect buildings. On a side note, the random chances of Lightning triggering is better than random chances of Criticals because
the damage spreads, which syngerizes very well with Poison Nova.

Other Orb Effects

Maim: A worthless orb because Venomancer’s Projectile speed seems a bit random. Counting on Maim to trigger would mean to hit the target more than you should and, again, you depend on damage overtime. Maim is 10%, shadow strike slows on impact and your Poison Sting slightly slows a target.

Frost: by getting Eye of Skadi, you are getting rid of Poison Sting; it simply does not stack. To make frost useful, you would have to rush EoS early because Poison Sting would be replaced by any means. 7050 is a lot of gold and provides health but does not provide the lethal damage required to kill. EoS would need a different build.

Feedback: To say the least, the items that provide feedback are useful. Diffusal Blade’s charges work well against Omniknight but Lightning goes through repel so Lighting > Feedback. And the split images from Manta Style don’t work well.

Lifesteal: I’ll make it simple, Venomancer does not tank very well although Poison Sting does stack with it. Lightning proves to be the better Orb Effect in terms of damage and reliability.

Aghenim’s Scepter

Poison Nova does not kill, simple. You’d be using it for creeps but Mjollnir does the job even better. The cooldown isn’t all that and the Scepter does not provide the damage he needs.

52 Comments so far ↓

  1. Jan
    16
    10:42
    AM
    bruno

    ois itens para ele estar bom até de mais !!!

    mais em um conbate x5 esse itens serian mt caros nem se ficase o jogo todo qrepando ia dar para vazer esses itens ..

    o Venomancer não tem vida ta serto q dois braçais fai dar vida mais ele ainda vai ser papel perto do outros…

    então eu sujiro uma lotar para ele vai dar um pouco mais de dano,ms e pode uzar o skill para jujir em situasoes de emergencia !!!!!

    é isso qe eu faria depois de dois braçais ..

  2. Jan
    18
    3:57
    AM
    Mac mac

    ThanK YOu!. MGa waLa kAung kWenTa!

  3. Feb
    11
    1:22
    AM
    omicron

    I completely disagree with almost every guide iv seen lately regarding plague wards.These wards are very very useful in the early game as u can harass any melee hero in ur lane.The wards can be spammed as soon as cooldown is ovrer ,provided a ring of basilus is purchased.the ring of basilus supplements u with a relatively high mana regen during the early game it also gives an Armour boost which is very beneficial and the cost of investment is very low so u can afford to sell it as the game progresses.therefore it is a perfect item to start off with.shadow strike has a very high mana cost and therefore it would not be feasible to opt for this skill first.
    the casting range of these wards are very high so if a hero is running away and is too far away to slow him down with poison sting simply plant a ward close to the opponents path the ward will definatly slow him down allowing another shot of poison sting.
    the wards give a meak 8 gold.Allow ur opponent to destroy as many wards as he wants,this can be allowed because u will not have to waste precious farming time harrasing ur opponent. ur wards do that for u.while Ur opponent gathers 8 gold u could gather 30 gold during the same period of time.If ur opponent seems to be unaffected by the wards harass with poison sting and let the wards farm for u, either way u get more gold.I agree wards can be used for scouting as it can prevent serious ganks.
    However if u r caught in a gank simply plant as many wards behind u as possible every hero passing by the ward will get slowed down making it harder to chase u.
    A blink dagger can be used very effectively not for the nova effect but to chase opponents that are too far away.Simply blink ahead of him and THEN cast shadow strike definite kill.

    I hope u do not mind my suggestion but i find this stratergy very efficient.

  4. Mar
    18
    4:15
    AM
    Erik

    its good,..

    pakenx

  5. Mar
    23
    8:05
    AM
    Thony

    What the hell..! Mekan for venO??
    I doNt thnk so.
    Uhm..Yeah, lifesteal is useless.. But, i dont disagree with bracers in early game, i got the wraith band for last hitting creeps.. And quarterstaff is better too in early game, coz it’ll boost attack speed, so the poison sting will workwell..

  6. Apr
    17
    1:26
    AM
    Veno is my game

    your built is very very wrong!!!!… napakatanga mo magturo ng built!!!!.. kung pwde lng ntin itry eh!!!… ako magveveno tapos papakita ko sau built ko….. ang bobo mo kc!!!… hahaha!!!!… ^^

  7. Apr
    18
    1:15
    PM
    Nahian-SP

    I dnt think that S&Y is a bad choice for him… An enemy even cant come to him if he has S&Y. My build for him is:
    1. 2 bracer
    2. Yasha
    3. Quaterstuff
    4. Sange
    5. Complete S&Y
    6. Complete butterfly
    7. MKB
    8. BoT
    9. Assault

  8. May
    12
    1:36
    AM
    Ex-Venomancer

    Ang Sange and Yasha ay walang silbi pag kay venomancer!!! may slow na si venomancer kaya hindi na kailangang mag Sange and Yasha!!! kung ganito build nio, kahit early, mid or late game na, you could still consider your character as a GOD:

    1. Power Threads
    2. Lothar’s Edge
    3. Manta Style
    4. The Butterfly
    5. assault cuirass
    6. monkey king bar

    sa ganitong gamit, kahit late game na, 98% yung chance na mas makapatay ka ng 3 ng sabay sabay at walang sablay!!!

  9. May
    13
    1:15
    AM
    NeTman_ZeT

    useful guide, but my build is
    1 butterfly
    2 dagger
    3 BoT
    4 lothar
    5 mkb
    6 assault

  10. May
    15
    2:24
    AM
    gr_guardian

    guide for venomacner:
    1.bracer
    2.bracer
    3.helm of dominator
    4.power treads
    5.assault
    6.monkey king bar

  11. May
    23
    8:54
    AM
    Renz_69

    pwede na rin!
    pwo final build ko kc ay:
    1.power treads
    2.butterfly
    3.cuirass(pangpakunat)
    4.vanguarg(pangpakunat)
    5.aganim’s
    6.satanic(lifesteal & pangpakunat)
    sabagay kanya-kanyang build naman i2 eh

  12. May
    24
    6:28
    AM
    renz_69

    hello poh!
    u’re built is ok
    but i have my very own build that maybe could be useful:
    1.power threads
    2.butterfly
    3.vanguard
    4.satanic
    5.cuirass
    6.aghanim’s
    tnx

  13. Jun
    7
    7:43
    AM
    Renz_69

    kung may reklamo
    sa gg na lng tau mgkita
    mwahahahaha!!!!
    skill build:
    venomous gale-lvl:1,3,5,7
    poison sting-lvl:2,4,8,9
    stats-lvl:10….ikaw na bahala sa susunod
    plague ward-kaw na bhala
    kung gus2 mo mgpush ipang lvl 10 mo na 2
    poison nova-(as usual)lvl:6,11,16

    kita na lng sa gg
    pangalan ko dun ay RENZ_69!
    PREPARE!!!

  14. Jul
    2
    10:16
    AM
    The Poisonous

    I think this is the bst item for venomancer:
    1.2 Wraith band
    2.Ring of health & Void stone
    3.Batlle Fury
    4.Power thread
    5.Sange and Yasha
    6.The Butterfly
    7.Heart Of Tarrascue
    8.Eyes of skadi

    those are my build for Lesalle

  15. Aug
    1
    1:52
    AM
    venomancer

    item build:
    2 warith band
    2 vanguard
    BoT
    butterfly
    wraith band are great in early game
    you can harass your enemy with ur AS
    vanguard and BoT are useful for chasing enemies while their in slow or either they have towers.

  16. Aug
    4
    7:53
    AM
    Leonel

    kung ako ang tatanungin.

    hinde na dapat kinukuha ang plague ward.
    e2 build ko:

    1.batterfly
    2.vanguard pwede na. (di na dapat maglifesteal or mag cuirass kc may regen na un.)
    3.monkey king bar
    4.ironmail pra return damage kung may magstun sau.
    5.power treds(agi)
    6.Demon edge.

    try nyo ba. khit pag 2lungan ka ni troll warlord and traxex. di yan cla makaporma. hahahahaha

  17. Sep
    4
    3:12
    AM
    Charles

    ang tanga ng built sa guidlines ang build ko ay:
    1. power treads
    2. 2 batterfly
    3. buriza do kyannon
    4. vanguard
    5. assualt cuirass

    try nyo wlang binatbat ang mga ibang hero yan

  18. Sep
    30
    4:39
    AM
    venio mlupet

    ito mga build nyan…

    1.threads
    2.vanguard
    3.sny
    4.butterfly
    5.eye of skadi

  19. Oct
    1
    6:35
    PM
    troll warl0rd master

    is BOT and MEKA are the only items that you build??

    NOOOOOB!!

    my built is…

    Phase boots=its better than power threads in v6.63

    Lothars=why lothars?? in team clashes poison nova is very needed so.. go lothars and get in the middle of your enemies nova and then.. BANG!!! w/ the shadow strike replaced by venomous gale man veno is a killer!!

    BUTTERFLY= of course every AGI hero is recomended to have BTrFLY

    WHO NEEDS GUIDES IF U CAN PRACTICE AND DISCOVER DOTA ON YOUR OWN?????

  20. Oct
    6
    7:26
    PM
    venomenser

    i thick he battle have
    power treads
    butterfly
    buriza
    vanguard
    lothar
    mkB

  21. Oct
    10
    9:25
    AM
    Fitnaruto

    The poisonous are you stupid?
    BF on veno?

  22. Oct
    17
    7:58
    AM
    LØ®ENZØ F. T@CLUY@N

    Build q kay venomancer ay:
    1.boots of speed
    2.hoods
    pag di pa nadala ito:
    3.tarras
    4.assult Cuirass
    5.aganims
    pag di pa nadala
    double taras o kaya cuiras
    yan lang kaylangan!!!1^_^

  23. Oct
    19
    4:55
    PM
    omg_lol@ale

    it doesnt exist a perfect build for venom.. it depends of the game.. anyway.. with this build i did 15-1-5 lol.. pure ownage.

    buy 2 bracers, 3-6 tangos and go mid if possible.
    then:
    -lothar asap
    -bot or pt (it depends on enemies.)
    -sange and yasha( i prefer it than butterfly coz gives u more hp, ms and is chiper.. also u dont need evasion coz u have lothar).

    usually the game is over.. if not u can buy radiance/linkin/butterfly

  24. Oct
    23
    2:58
    AM
    CM

    its a very nice guild isnt it… some disagree, and they are the weaks.. damn!!! they already go for a higher items,, LOL… the guide is from the start, mid and end game.. going for a miljonir is a good choice.. and butterfly at the end of the game.. i guess when u go for cuirass the game is already finish..
    1. 2 wraith/bracer
    2. maelstrom (miljo)
    3. BOT/threads
    4. lothars
    5. butterfly (late game)
    6. cuirass (if the game is not yet finish
    vanguard (optional)
    i dont go for a life steal
    nor SNY (2 expensive)
    better go for speed items… the only thing you need is speed, veno is just for support.. his defense is too weak, even if u get 2 vanguards… he is only good for the early game.. for late game battle, he is served as support for his poison and slow… as if you can go for butterfly that quick… hahaha.. LOLs

  25. Nov
    5
    2:35
    AM
    R@y/\/\@rT P. !-!l_l@l\lg

    nah guys ur wrong item is:
    1.sange and yasha
    2.butterfly
    3.vanguard
    4.phase boots
    5.monkey king bar
    6.buriza

    so it can be TOO! STRONG!!!
    ur items are 4 weaks only
    satanic cant affect veno!

  26. Nov
    11
    11:11
    PM
    coet.

    i have try your item for several game.not effective enough for veno.

  27. Nov
    13
    11:15
    AM
    sde

    Wtf wat do u mean s and y is too expensive, u got a butterfly and a radiance in ure build

  28. Nov
    14
    6:39
    AM
    janiluQ

    I think the best items for venomancer are:
    1) butterfly
    2) BoT
    3) Satanic
    4) Buriza
    5) lothar
    6) rapira

  29. Nov
    19
    11:11
    PM
    voodoo12345

    ..ms mgnda ang gn2ng build…

    1.dominator(satanic)
    2.power threads
    3.butterfly..
    4.mkb.oha,..

  30. Nov
    20
    5:39
    AM
    fahry azmi maulana

    good venomencer :
    1. wraith brand(2)
    2. power treads
    3. vanguard
    4. the butterfly
    5. tarras

  31. Nov
    21
    9:45
    PM
    UNCOOL

    all of your guides are wrong
    1.Wraith band(2)
    2.Helm of iron will
    3.Crixalis
    4.Buriza-do Kyanon
    5.Butterfly
    6.Eul’s Scepter <<POISON NOVA WILL INCREASE DAMAGE

    NOTE: After Buying BUTTERFLY put out the wraith band(1)

  32. Nov
    21
    9:47
    PM
    UNCOOL

    all of your guides are wrong
    1.Wraith band(2)
    2.Power Treads
    3.Helm of iron will
    (a)Upgrade Helm Of Iron Will to SATANIC
    4.Crixalis
    5.Buriza-do Kyanon
    6.Butterfly
    7.Eul’s Scepter <<POISON NOVA WILL INCREASE DAMAGE

    NOTE: After Buying BUTTERFLY put out the 2 Wraith Band(2)

    [THE FIRST COMMENT IS INCOMPLETE THIS IS THE TRUE GUIDES...]

  33. Nov
    22
    1:06
    AM
    UNCOOL

    Vangaurd is not included if Venomancer buy all this recipes he wont need the Vangaurd

  34. Nov
    22
    1:09
    AM
    UNCOOL

    all of your guides are wrong
    1.Wraith band(2)
    2.Power Treads
    3.Helm of iron will
    (a)Upgrade Helm Of Iron Will to SATANIC
    4.Crixalis
    5.Buriza-do Kyanon
    6.Butterfly
    7.Eul’s Scepter <<POISON NOVA WILL INCREASE DAMAGE

    NOTE: After Buying BUTTERFLY put out the 2 Wraith Band(2)

    [THE FIRST COMMENT IS INCOMPLETE THIS IS THE TRUE GUIDES..

    Include or Exclude the [DIVINE RAPIER] this will get you stronger

  35. Nov
    23
    2:13
    AM
    UNCOOL

    Here’s the Item to built in Venomancer

    1.Wraith Band(2)
    2.Power Treads
    3.Helm Of Iron Will
    (a)Satanic
    4.Crixalis
    5.The Butterfly
    6.Buriza-do Kyanon
    7.Aghanim’s Scepter

    In Aghanim’s Scepter Your level 6 Skill will get upgraded to Strength,Health and Mana

    Note:After buying The Butterfly put out the Wraith Band(2)

    (2)Note:Eul’s Scepter and Divine Rapier cannot be included

    (3)Note:The 3RD Comment had (1) Correction that could be Eul’s Scepter it should be Aghanims Scepter

    IM “UNCOOL” AND I AM SORRY WHO USE THE 3RD COMMENT GUIDES

    (BAD COMMENT [comment #3])

  36. Nov
    26
    12:16
    AM
    khalid yhe coop

    i think the best items for venomancer is aghanims :lothars mekanism 1 vanguard power threads and buriza or kelens dagger(for blinking)

  37. Nov
    26
    12:19
    AM
    sahraman b laut

    for venom is 1 ironwood 1salve and 3 town portals (thats for elite items)

  38. Dec
    1
    11:03
    PM
    †RielVenom†

    Pra mka god like kah

    used this items

    ♥BOT
    ♥lothars
    ♥Maelstrom
    ♥butterfly or mkb
    ♥mjollnir
    ♥cuirass

    09051374192

  39. Dec
    1
    11:13
    PM
    DennisDotaMaster

    THIS IS THE BEST ITEMS FOR VENO !

    - Boots Of Travel

    - Lothar’s Edge

    - Helm Of Dominator

    - Butterfly

    - Monkey King Bar

    - Black King Bar

    THATS THE BEST !

    WEw ! COMMNET ME ON MY FACEBOOK ACCOUNT ! mr.emodens@yahoo.com .. for some questions !

  40. Dec
    18
    2:45
    AM
    Venopoison

    Kailangan ganito ang build nyo para maging GODLIKE or Beyond GODLIKE:
    1: Power Treads
    2: Vanguard
    3: Sange
    4: Yasha
    5: Sange & Yasha
    6: Aganihm’s Scepter
    7: The Butterfly

    kung madami na kayong pera
    8: Divine Rapier
    9: Sell Power Treads and replace it
    by Divine Rapier

  41. Dec
    19
    3:24
    AM
    UNCOOL

    geh lahat na lng bnuo ^^ kahit ano na XDD

  42. Jan
    28
    6:33
    PM
    patrick

    my favorite char. is venomancer ultra killer he can kill all the hero in the battle field!!! gogogo venomancer

    VENOMANCER is the best hero in dota all star !!!!

  43. Feb
    25
    11:47
    PM
    †emo prince 19†

    mas gus2 kong build nun:
    threads
    vanguard
    SnY
    lotars
    deso
    b.fly

  44. Mar
    6
    7:16
    AM
    R-JAYR

    Hahaha Bracer TangiNgot Whiteband Dapat,, ANg LAki MONg tanga!!!

    PEACE OFF!!

  45. Mar
    16
    2:55
    AM
    allen maklig

    ni ancient appariton po!

  46. Mar
    22
    9:42
    PM
    microyo

    y venom is not 4 kh? n y s&y is not suit? n wat p.ward use for??????????????

  47. Mar
    25
    10:07
    AM
    wael

    you guys are dump you should buy:
    1-3 wraith bands
    2-power treads
    3-vanguard
    4-maghanin scepter
    5-sange and yasha
    6-butterfly

  48. Mar
    30
    6:44
    AM
    moOn

    My Item Bulid for Venomancer.. ^^,

    1. Boots of Travel
    2. Lothar’s Edge
    3. Aganihm’s Scepter
    4. Assault Cuirass
    5. Monkey King Bar
    6. Butterfly

  49. Jun
    6
    6:40
    AM
    NoobPwnage

    Get PT & Vanguard 1st,own early game.I owned 4-0-1 tat time.We ended the match during early game.

  50. Jun
    15
    1:54
    AM
    wapo ko noh

    items for VENO….
    travel
    aganims
    manta
    butterfly or assault
    buriza or MKB
    BKB..mga tae kayu…tandaan niong lahat yan!!!!

  51. Jun
    26
    9:50
    AM
    Newbie970329

    Come on!!! Venomancer needs caution…… If thr are nukers or even stunners, better to buy linken sphere or if you’re scared, a BKB should do the trick….

    AND… Battle fury for venomancer?? FTW? Who that said that should go and die…

    Venomancer needs some damage items while also need survival items…
    When you;re chasing someone, there’s a high posibility that other enemies are coming for you…
    So I would recommend
    1. Butterfly
    2. BoT
    3. Agahnim
    4. Lothar’s Edge/Kelen’s Dagger
    5. MKB/Buriza
    6. The 6th one should be a survival item……
    7. Linken Sphere/BKB
    *If thr are seriously fucking Nukers, so its a situational item

    This is my build…..
    Also, please tell me how Slark can be a seriously fuckin’ killer. Where can I find a super gud guide for Slark??

  52. Aug
    4
    8:00
    PM
    IM PRO & YOU WILL

    the only weak person can’t do this, but if you are nice it is very easy to build ……..
    1.BOOTS OF TRAVEL
    2.AGAHNIM’S SCEPTER
    3.REFRESHER ORB
    4.MKB
    5.BUTTERFLY
    6.DESOLATOR
    CONGRATS !! YOU ARE A PREFESSIONAL..

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